Hip Roof vs Gable Roof Runoff
Hip vs gable roof runoff, compared. How each roof shape sheds water, where it concentrates, and what that means for gutter placement and capacity.
Roof Runoff
An open valley leaves a metal channel exposed down the center for water to run on; a closed valley covers that channel with shingles. Open valleys shed heavy water and debris faster and tend to last longer, while closed valleys look seamless and cost less. Both concentrate runoff at the eave and need capacity below.
An open roof valley leaves a strip of metal exposed down the center for water to run on, while a closed valley covers that channel with shingles. Open valleys shed heavy water and debris faster and often last longer; closed valleys look seamless and usually cost less. But the choice is mostly about the roof surface, because both styles concentrate the same fast runoff at the eave and both need a gutter sized to catch it.
A valley is the trough where two sloped roof planes meet, and its job is to gather water from both slopes and channel it down to the eave. That is true whether the valley is open or closed. For the mechanics of how a valley concentrates and speeds up runoff, see roof valleys and water concentration, and for the wider picture of water leaving a roof, how roof runoff works.
The open-versus-closed decision is about how the valley surface is finished, not about what the valley does. Both carry the same water. The difference is what that water runs across on its way down.
In an open valley, a strip of metal flashing runs down the center of the valley and stays visible. The shingles from each roof plane stop short of the center, leaving a clean metal channel, usually a few inches wide, for water to run on.
That exposed metal is the whole advantage. It is smooth, so water and debris slide down it quickly and cleanly, and it takes the wear of concentrated flow instead of the shingle granules. Open valleys tend to handle heavy rain and shed leaves and needles well, and they often outlast the surrounding roof at the valley line. The trade-offs are a slightly higher cost and a visible metal stripe that some homeowners dislike or, depending on the metal color, actively like.
In a closed valley, the shingles continue across the center so no metal shows. There are two common ways to do it. In a woven valley, shingles from both planes overlap and interlace across the center. In a closed-cut valley, shingles from one plane run across and the shingles from the other are cut along a line just off center.
The appeal is a continuous, seamless look, with no metal stripe interrupting the roof, and a lower cost because the valley uses the same shingles as everything else. The downsides show up under heavy or debris-laden flow: the shingle surface can slow water and catch leaves where the courses meet, and the concentrated stream gradually wears the granules along the flow line.
Both valley types are proven and widely used. Which one suits a given roof depends on climate, tree cover, roofing material, budget, and appearance, so treat the comparison below as trade-offs to weigh, not a verdict that one is always right.
| Feature | Open valley | Closed valley |
|---|---|---|
| Center surface | Exposed metal channel | Covered with shingles |
| Heavy-rain flow | Sheds fast and cleanly | Adequate, can slow at the center |
| Debris shedding | Better, smooth metal path | Can trap debris where shingles meet |
| Durability at the valley | Often longer, metal takes the wear | Shingle surface wears over time |
| Cost | Higher, adds metal and detailing | Lower, uses the same shingles |
| Appearance | Visible metal stripe | Seamless, no metal shows |
Here is the part that matters for your gutters: the valley style does not change how much water arrives at the eave. Open or closed, the valley still delivers a concentrated, fast stream to a single point on the gutter below, and that gutter can still overshoot in a downpour.
So the drainage details are the same either way. A splash guard where the valley meets the trough, adequate gutter capacity, and a downspout near the outlet all apply regardless of which valley you have. If your valley overshoots or spills, the fix is below the valley, not in choosing open versus closed. There is even an ice angle: in cold climates, valleys are a spot where snow and meltwater concentrate, which ties into how ice dams form at the eaves.
Open valleys run water on exposed metal, shedding heavy flow and debris fast and lasting well, at a higher cost and with a visible stripe. Closed valleys hide the channel under shingles for a seamless look and a lower price, at some cost to shedding and long-term wear. Pick based on your trees, climate, budget, and taste. Just remember that whichever you choose, the valley still hands a concentrated stream to the gutter below, so the capacity and splash-guard details at the eave matter just as much as the valley itself.
FAQ
An open valley leaves a strip of metal flashing exposed down the center of the valley, so water runs on the metal. A closed valley covers that center with shingles, either woven across or cut along a line, so no metal shows. Both handle the same job of channeling water where two roof planes meet.
Open valleys generally shed heavy, fast water more efficiently, because the smooth metal channel lets water and debris slide straight down. Closed valleys work fine in most conditions but can slow water and catch debris where shingles meet in the center.
Open metal valleys often last longer because the metal takes the wear of concentrated water instead of the shingle granules. In a closed valley, the constant flow can wear the shingle surface over time. Actual lifespan depends on materials, climate, and installation quality.
Closed valleys usually cost less because they use the same shingles as the rest of the roof and skip the separate metal channel. Open valleys add the cost of the metal and more detailed installation, which is part of why closed valleys are common on budget-driven roofs.
Open valleys shed debris better, since the smooth metal gives leaves and needles a clear path to the eave. Closed valleys, especially woven ones, can trap debris where the shingles interlace, which is worth knowing if you have overhanging trees.
Not really. Both open and closed valleys concentrate runoff from two roof planes into one fast stream at the eave. The gutter below still has to handle that concentrated flow, so capacity and a splash guard matter regardless of which valley style you have.